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SERIOUS Q: what's the CATHOLIC CHURCH'S reason for not distributing its wealth?

i've heard they're sitting on billions if not a trillion dol...
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  08/09/18
lol
Upset Jew the POASTAH
  08/09/18
they need a deep reserve for law suits, wink wink.
Upset Jew the POASTAH
  08/09/18
Itís even more glaring now because of the "Liberation t...
""'"'''"
  08/09/18
liberation theology died in the 90s. gustavo gutierrez and ...
beckersted.
  08/09/18
Their wealth is theoretical mostly and in property. They cou...
average/ordinary/typical citizen/person
  08/09/18
Jews would buy their shit just to desecrate to make their ďa...
""'"'''"
  08/09/18
Well hot dam we got a deal
average/ordinary/typical citizen/person
  08/09/18
explain? don't they have artwork that could be sold to museu...
""""''
  08/09/18
They could get maybe 50 billion for their art. Lets say even...
average/ordinary/typical citizen/person
  08/09/18
Better just to hoarde and agitate for open borders I suppose
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  08/09/18
so 100 billion not worth it for all the lives you can save w...
""""''
  08/09/18
You could argue its worth it. I would say depleting resource...
average/ordinary/typical citizen/person
  08/09/18
saving the lives of poor people is a short term benefit? wha...
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  08/09/18
A strong a wealthy church continuing to exist for multiple m...
average/ordinary/typical citizen/person
  08/09/18
cr.
beckersted.
  08/09/18
weirdest thing to me is all the non-Christian art/artifacts ...
Frog and Toad Join The Space Force
  08/09/18
never heard of this
""""''
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_R%C3%ADos
Frog and Toad Join The Space Force
  08/09/18
the monumental magisterium exists FOR everyone. in any gi...
beckersted.
  08/09/18
is this true? all their artwork and property are freely (emp...
""""''
  08/09/18
you can go to any catholic cathedral and just sit. no money...
beckersted.
  08/09/18
why do you keep using that term? it doesn't have a google au...
""""''
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the monumental magisterium is what catholics call the collec...
beckersted.
  08/09/18
cool. two questions then: 1. why isn't monumental magiste...
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do you have autism. who the fuck cares about a google autoco...
Wilbur Mercer-Bey
  08/09/18
isn't it strange to you that a supposed well known term for ...
""""''
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no I'm not surprised that the nexus of the shitlib hive mind...
Wilbur Mercer-Bey
  08/09/18
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credited Qs
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This point of debate was had many centuries ago: https://...
CharlesXII
  08/09/18
Iconoclasm refers to the destruction of the art and icons an...
""""''
  08/09/18
i think that there is a sleight of hand at play. In many ca...
beckersted.
  08/09/18
Was any part of jesus' message iconoclasm then?
""""''
  08/09/18
sure. but giving it to everyone is different than hoarding ...
beckersted.
  08/09/18
I guess I'm just having trouble looking through the eyes of ...
""""''
  08/09/18
i guess i can't help you. good luck.
beckersted.
  08/09/18
got damn it reeks of gefilte fish in here. 6 Now when Jes...
mothergentle caresser
  08/09/18
1--it's a technical theological phrase. It's probably used ...
beckersted.
  08/09/18
just think of it as a land trust, with the added benefit of ...
Sotomayor McCheese
  08/09/18
But enough about synagogues.
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sharia lawyer
  08/09/18
OP here. it also seems to me that these homosexual drug user...
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it's a fair point. the counter to this is the vast majority...
beckersted.
  08/09/18
(Robespierre)
CharlesXII
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sharia lawyer
  08/09/18
*takes a hit of desmond tutu* *partakes in a suck and fuck ...
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We need another
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Wait explain what your assumption that the right thing to do...
Amerika ca$h grab
  08/09/18
No I meant food and medicine for the poor. Seems to be a fun...
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So the food and medicine last a couple years and we are back...
Amerika ca$h grab
  08/09/18
Again, saving a starving child's life or saving a sick mothe...
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Those things are by definition temporary. But he church ...
Amerika ca$h grab
  08/09/18
I guess it can. But is a guy that just accumulates wealth an...
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A guy who does that and does not give any money to charity o...
Amerika ca$h grab
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Still seems to deviate greatly from Jesus message. And I dis...
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Jews just expect you to give everything away because their m...
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looks like we all got our answers itt. i guess itís just a c...
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poverty-by-charity for thee but not for me
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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:44 PM
Author: """"''


i've heard they're sitting on billions if not a trillion dollars of artwork and artifacts. what's their reason for not liquidating and distributing to poor and to good causes? i guess they've always faced the conundrum of having ornate building and such and still trying to spread jesus' message

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36586954)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: Upset Jew the POASTAH

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36586966)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: Upset Jew the POASTAH

they need a deep reserve for law suits, wink wink.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36586969)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: ""'"'''"


Itís even more glaring now because of the "Liberation theology" theyíve been pushing on the rest of the world. Reason #2648381 papists cannot be taken seriously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36586970)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: beckersted.

liberation theology died in the 90s. gustavo gutierrez and the brothers boff basically are in the dust bin of history.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587035)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: average/ordinary/typical citizen/person

Their wealth is theoretical mostly and in property. They couldnt get any meaningful amount to make it worth selling things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36586973)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: ""'"'''"


Jews would buy their shit just to desecrate to make their ďartĒ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36586986)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: average/ordinary/typical citizen/person

Well hot dam we got a deal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36586992)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: """"''


explain? don't they have artwork that could be sold to museums or private collectors even?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36586990)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: average/ordinary/typical citizen/person

They could get maybe 50 billion for their art. Lets say even 100. Thats not worth it. You couldnt make any lasting meaningful change globally with that. Maybe they could prop up few central African or American countries for the 21st century but fuck that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587026)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:54 PM
Author: ""'"'''"


Better just to hoarde and agitate for open borders I suppose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587044)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: """"''


so 100 billion not worth it for all the lives you can save with food and medicine? what's the objective that outweighs it? displaying art and ornate buildings?

not trying to be a bleeding heart about this, but it seems like a glaring hypocrisy, especially the artwork

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587073)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: average/ordinary/typical citizen/person

You could argue its worth it. I would say depleting resources for a relatively short term benefit isnt worth it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587109)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: """"''


saving the lives of poor people is a short term benefit? what would be an example of a long term benefit in your eyes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587121)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:08 PM
Author: average/ordinary/typical citizen/person

A strong a wealthy church continuing to exist for multiple millennia doing the work to save lives you are talking about and has done done more than pretty much any other social construct for the past millennia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587141)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: beckersted.

cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587025)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: Frog and Toad Join The Space Force

weirdest thing to me is all the non-Christian art/artifacts they own

like wtf do Mayan codices have to do with the Church? Sell that shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36586976)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: """"''


never heard of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587000)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: Frog and Toad Join The Space Force

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_R%C3%ADos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587039)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: beckersted.

the monumental magisterium exists FOR everyone.

in any given city, any given person, poor or rich, gay or straight, jew or gentile, can go sit in a beautiful soaring cathedral in peace or admire the windows or the architecture. etc.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587022)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: """"''


is this true? all their artwork and property are freely (emphasis on the word free) accessible to the public? even so, it seems like they'd still face the question of whether it would be more beneficial for humanity to liquidate and spend the money on noble causes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587051)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: beckersted.

you can go to any catholic cathedral and just sit. no money. no entrance fee. nothing.

the monumental magisterium is its own evangelization and catechetical tool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587071)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: """"''


why do you keep using that term? it doesn't have a google autocomplete. is that what people call the collective property of the catholic church?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587088)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:06 PM
Author: beckersted.

the monumental magisterium is what catholics call the collection of art, statues, windows, cathedrals, basilicas, music, etc. So, for example, Chartes Cathedral and all that is in it is part of the monumental magisterium. A pivotal idea behind it is that it's part of everyone's patrimony. It already belongs to you and you can enjoy it. It serves both an evangelical function and a general secular function. It can't be closed off to the public. Some places will obviously have "public hours", but they can't ID you or ask for a fee. You can just go sit and enjoy it.

A museum is not part of the monunmental magisterium, but the fact that these works are already IN a museum allows for access to begin with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587129)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: """"''


cool. two questions then:

1. why isn't monumental magisterium a google autocomplete? when i typed monumental mag i expected the rest to be there, but there was nothing. even when i searched it, i didn't see anything saying, "the monumental magisteriums is what catholics call the...."

2. it has to be at least a point of debate for catholics that it would be better to sell it off to provide food and medicine or to fund research, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587162)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: Wilbur Mercer-Bey (Short Pride World Wide)

do you have autism. who the fuck cares about a google autocomplete.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587199)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: """"''


isn't it strange to you that a supposed well known term for referring to the catholic church's possessions is not an autocomplete, nor is it one of the first hits after a search.

like when i search for wilbur me... it displays "wilbur mercer sissybottom bitchboy"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587212)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: Wilbur Mercer-Bey (Short Pride World Wide)

no I'm not surprised that the nexus of the shitlib hive mind, google, isn't feeding ecclesiastical phrases to their mongoloid customers dumb ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587226)



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Date: August 10th, 2018 12:04 AM
Author: .,,..,..,.,.,:,,..::,,..,:,..,.:,.,..:.,:.::,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36589883)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: .,.,,..,.,,.,.,:,,:,..,,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.


credited Qs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36588030)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII)

This point of debate was had many centuries ago:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iconoclasm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587232)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:43 PM
Author: """"''


Iconoclasm refers to the destruction of the art and icons and such. I'm not saying they should be destroyed or even addressing their importance tot the religion itself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587373)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:44 PM
Author: beckersted.

i think that there is a sleight of hand at play. In many cases the "why have all these riches? just liquidate and give to the poor?" is crypto-iconoclasm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587378)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: """"''


Was any part of jesus' message iconoclasm then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587393)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: beckersted.

sure. but giving it to everyone is different than hoarding wealth. this is the point of monumental magisterium. it's for everyone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587400)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:57 PM
Author: """"''


I guess I'm just having trouble looking through the eyes of a starving or sick child and thinking, "yeah I guess it's important for the church to have all this wealth so they can attract interest and maybe convert people in the future and keep doing good for the millennia to come." Just seems like rank hypocrisy and I'm not surprised that the church and scholars have been doing mental gymnastics for centuries to justify keeping all this stuff. Seems to me that it could be sold and replicas made or something where it's still accessible to those that are interested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587449)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 5:01 PM
Author: beckersted.

i guess i can't help you. good luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587472)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 11:25 PM
Author: mothergentle caresser

got damn it reeks of gefilte fish in here.

6 Now when Jesus was at Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, 7 a woman came up to him with an alabaster flask of very expensive ointment, and she poured it on his head, as he sat at table. 8 But when the disciples saw it, they were indignant, saying, ďWhy this waste? 9 For this ointment might have been sold for a large sum, and given to the poor.Ē 10 But Jesus, aware of this, said to them, ďWhy do you trouble the woman? For she has done a beautiful thing to me. 11 For you always have the poor with you, but you will not always have me. 12 In pouring this ointment on my body she has done it to prepare me for burial. 13 Truly, I say to you, wherever this gospel is preached in the whole world, what she has done will be told in memory of her.Ē

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36589732)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:28 PM
Author: beckersted.

1--it's a technical theological phrase. It's probably used by a couple of thousand people in the world at any given moment. If you really are interested in the monumental magisterium, the works of Fr. Chad Ripperger fleshes it out a bit. It's a wide body of things that also includes music, the prayers, the devotions, etc. A good way to think of it is the "sensus fidelium" and the "sensus populum". The sense of the faith and of the people. They actually are real drivers in what is sacred and what is not. A thing is not sacred in and of itself, there is a SENSE of the sacred created by the response of the people to it. That makes something a part of the monumental magisterium. So a building PER SE is not part of the monumental magisterium because it's a catholic building (think like, the HQ of the Knights of Columbus), but because of how it's used over time.

2. people do talk about it. but it's a blip in the radar and actually relates to the idea of the monumental magisterium. let me give an example. Say you were to liquidate St. Patrick's Cathedral or Chartes and all in it. You would get a momentary blip of money. But there are things to consider: 1) what about the edification thousands of people get everyday from it? is that quantifiable in money terms? it begs the question, are all things "value" to be measured by their market value? 2) when you take apart and destroy what was funded by and created by people pooling their resources, are you disrespecting what they worked together to build? are you reducing what they thought was important to a temporary financial end? think of the family home of a great patriarch. Do you simply liquidate Marble House in Newport and give that money to the poor OR do you open it to the people? now, they charge people to look at it for historical/aesthetic reasons. but the church doesn't do that. you just go.

it's probably better a conversation to have face to face, but i think this gets at the questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587272)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Sotomayor McCheese

just think of it as a land trust, with the added benefit of rampant child molestation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587120)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: ,,,.,,..,,..,,...'.,."""'...


But enough about synagogues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587145)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: sharia lawyer (<---)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587169)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:08 PM
Author: """"''


OP here. it also seems to me that these homosexual drug users (and perhaps pedophiles) are attracted to the whole vatican scene and way of life that's only made possible by this wealth. i think it would be less likely to happen if priests and higher ups truly lived an ascetic life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587140)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: beckersted.

it's a fair point. the counter to this is the vast majority of people you're concerned about will never have access to the vatican and the lifestyle attendant to it. Most priests live poor and ascetic lives already. There are something like 410,000 priests and only like 214 cardinals.

some of us have talked about it here, but if one is truly worried about countering pedophilia in the church, that is really best done at vetting seminarians. and there was a tacit understanding circa the early 1970s to basically let in all-comers. Mind you, sex abuse is not exclusive to this era. There has always been sex abuse. It's not unique to the catholic church or to the catholic church in this moment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587175)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: CharlesXII (CharlesXII)

(Robespierre)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587151)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: sharia lawyer (<---)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587156)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:15 PM
Author: """"''


*takes a hit of desmond tutu*

*partakes in a suck and fuck gay orgy surrounded by the magisterium*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587182)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: ""'"'''"


We need another

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587225)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: Amerika ca$h grab

Wait explain what your assumption that the right thing to do IS to liquidate and give that money to the poor. You think poverty is just alleviated like that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587486)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 5:05 PM
Author: """"''


No I meant food and medicine for the poor. Seems to be a fundamental part of Jesus message

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587494)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 5:08 PM
Author: Amerika ca$h grab

So the food and medicine last a couple years and we are back to square one with no meaningful dent in world poverty because it is tied to the governments and culture not lack of immediate cash and medicine

Meanwhile a massive collection of he westís artwork is now in private hands worldwide

The church already does great amounts of charity work worldwide. I donít see why that should also include selling off all their possessions for a fraction of a percent marginal and temporary poverty relief

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587512)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 5:11 PM
Author: """"''


Again, saving a starving child's life or saving a sick mother through medicine doesn't seem marginal or short term or temporary. The reasons you give sound like the same reasons a cynical rich guy gives for hoarding his money and not giving to charity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587524)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: Amerika ca$h grab

Those things are by definition temporary.

But he church exists to save souls anyway, not just flesh, and itís collection of artwork and property has helped it do that.

Why canít it do both? It already helps with poverty relief, why canít it also work the spiritual side with beautiful massive churches?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587548)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 5:20 PM
Author: """"''


I guess it can. But is a guy that just accumulates wealth and builds ornate mansions in good shape as far as his soul goes? Jesus message about the eye of the needle seems to be far different than, "oh saving that child is just temporary, you know what really saves souls? This bomb ass artwork and gothic cathedral."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587583)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: Amerika ca$h grab

A guy who does that and does not give any money to charity or use his fortune for good in any way? No

The Catholic Church does use its fortune for good. And itís been the primary driver of artwork that has defined western civilization

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587612)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 5:30 PM
Author: """"''


Still seems to deviate greatly from Jesus message. And I disagree that it's artwork defined western civilization, I think Christianity in general did that. Of course the artwork is considered extremely important, but catholic artwork was the only game in town for a long time.

Would you concede that at a certain level of value, it would be in the Church's best interest to sell it to give to the poor?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36587642)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 6:50 PM
Author: beta cuck provider

Jews just expect you to give everything away because their most hated jew was some nice guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36588046)



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Date: August 10th, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: slimp

looks like we all got our answers itt. i guess itís just a convenient accident that the churchís doctrine allows its leaders to sit around on gold chairs looking at priceless works of historical art. anyway, be sure not to build that wall on the mexican border, you monster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36589937)



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Date: August 10th, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: .,,..,..,.,.,:,,..::,,..,:,..,.:,.,..:.,:.::,.


Oh look! Itís a Jew!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36593044)



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Date: August 10th, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: sharia lawyer (<---)

poverty-by-charity for thee but not for me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36593051)



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Date: August 10th, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: beta cuck provider



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4047587&forum_id=2#36593241)